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Post by The Real dont Care on Oct 18, 2004 14:18:58 GMT -6
ok, instead of Reshape i would rather run Engineers cuase u get the stations out faster.
But heres another thing wouldn't u rather play something that costs 3 to play instead of XUU then if u want to get Slavaging Station out it would coast u 9 mana to play instead of 2U. instead of wasting 1 turn for nine Mana its not worth it. U c with Fabericate u wouldn't have to waste 1 turn like with Reshape. u can also use the rest of Mana for something else
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 14:27:25 GMT -6
By the way the Real dont Care is me i'm at school right now so i couldn't log in but now i could cheap ass computers'
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 18:22:14 GMT -6
ok, instead of Reshape i would rather run Engineers cuase u get the stations out faster. But heres another thing wouldn't u rather play something that costs 3 to play instead of XUU then if u want to get Slavaging Station out it would coast u 9 mana to play instead of 2U. instead of wasting 1 turn for nine Mana its not worth it. U c with Fabericate u wouldn't have to waste 1 turn like with Reshape. u can also use the rest of Mana for something else Once again, we aren't arguing over Reshape versus Fabricate, but whether Reshape is good in addition to Fabricate. And anyway, Fabricate doesn't bring it to play, just to your hand. If you want it in play you still have to cast it. When you Reshape, you pay the  and the cost of the artifact. When you play Fabricate, you pay 2 , and then if you want it in play, you still have to pay its cost. So, as far as getting the artifact into play, Reshape actually does it for one mana less than Fabricate, with only the additional cost of some other artifact, maybe a Welding Jar or if you're really pressed, an artifact land. |
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Post by Randomn on Oct 18, 2004 18:33:14 GMT -6
us,You just have to find a way to make the deck faster. You could use the Gilded Lotus and Twiddle, dream's grip engine with some card draw. Thats alll I have to say  |
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 18:36:41 GMT -6
did u forget the X that u have to Pay in order to get it out
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 19:28:17 GMT -6
did u forget the X that u have to Pay in order to get it out No I didn't. That X is equal to its converted mana cost, the same amount you'd have to pay to put it in from your hand. Therefore, Reshape = + converted mana cost to get the card into play, and Fabricate = 2 + converted mana cost to get it into play. You do the math. |
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 20:15:21 GMT -6
yes so u would want to pay nine for reshape and salvaging station so i guess u don't mind wasting a turn
what if u get gged that turn then what u lose
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 20:51:15 GMT -6
Um... Reshaping to get a Salvaging Station would cost 8, not 9. Fabricating it, then casting it, would be 9. And if you go back and read what I said, I said that Reshape would be better used on the cheaper Stations. You could fetch Grinding Station straight to play for 4 mana, as opposed to spending 3 to tutor for it and another 2 to play it.
The only advantage to paying that extra mana for Fabricate is that you don't have to pay the full cost on the same turn. You can split it between two turns. Since 8 mana is a lot for one turn, this is why I suggested it not for the big stations, but for the cheaper two, and not for the more expensive stations.
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 21:07:49 GMT -6
u always have the cheaper stations in ur hand its very rare the u don't. unless u stains
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 21:13:34 GMT -6
How can you guarantee that any 1 card in your deck is in your hand? I want to see how this is done. If you can guarantee that you have both a Blasting and Grinding Station in your hand at the beginning of the game (which you statistically have a 7/20 chance of having either, much less of having both), then I want to know what kind of trick shuffling or deck stacking you do.
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 21:49:16 GMT -6
no i don't stack my deck i always have my opponents cut my deck and i shuffle in front of them and plus i always get lucky i have luck in this game bit the best of it but i always draw the little stations
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 21:50:26 GMT -6
in my station deck i run 4 of every station
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 21:51:26 GMT -6
and besides form before i wouldn't cast the station the same turn i have a fabericate the only way i would do it if i had a Engineer
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 22:01:22 GMT -6
Ok i asked a Good Friend of mine Bob Havlovic hes the Big dude thats load and one of the best Magic Players i know this is what i asled him. You can ask him if this is true or not. BobO: ... ShemoSalvo: if u were running a station deck Mir block condstructed ShemoSalvo: what would u rather run in there ShemoSalvo: Fabericate or Reshape ShemoSalvo:  BobO: wtf is reshape? ShemoSalvo: its a Gay BobO: then im guessin fab ShemoSalvo: UUX that u use tget a station form ur deck t o ur hand BobO: fab ShemoSalvo: no its put it inot play my bad ShemoSalvo: stil Fab ShemoSalvo: its like if u want to get a Summoning Staion out ShemoSalvo: or salvaging Station ShemoSalvo: would u still use Fab.? BobO: yea ShemoSalvo: thank u BobO: y? ShemoSalvo: i'm having an arguement wit this one dude form the messege board ShemoSalvo: and he says the Reshape is better in the station deck he also had to say this BobO: put this at the end of the convo ShemoSalvo: k BobO: that deck is ass anyways.... who would play it in the 1st place BobO: lol ShemoSalvo: lol Godd O'll Bobo |
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Post by Volrath, the Fallen on Oct 18, 2004 22:07:57 GMT -6
he also had to say this BobO: put this at the end of the convo ShemoSalvo: k BobO: that deck is ass anyways.... who would play it in the 1st place BobO: lol ShemoSalvo: lol Godd O'll Bobo Insulting peoples decks is completely unnecessary and childish, this is the second time i have seen you doing this. Please refrain from doing it in the future. Not everyone has the uncanny ability to net deck. most of us prefer to be creative with our decks |
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