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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 22:08:05 GMT -6
[glow=red,12,300]HOW MANY FREAKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT I AM NOT SUGGESTING RESHAPE IN PLACE OF FABRICATE, BUT IN ADDITION?!?!?!?![/glow]#nosmileys
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Post by DontCare on Oct 18, 2004 22:11:08 GMT -6
;D
Note to DontCare: Wouldn't insult the mods if I were you.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 18, 2004 22:24:54 GMT -6
Nowhere have I said that the deck should use Reshape instead of Fabricate. As Fabricate is a better card and is already in the deck, I believe we have no disagreement there. Once again, we aren't arguing over Reshape versus Fabricate, but whether Reshape is good in addition to Fabricate. Three times I have explicitly stated that Reshape, if used at all, would be in addition to Fabricate, not instead of it. This makes number four. Even if you can point to a single instance in which I said the deck shouldn't use Fabricate (which I don't think you can), this should be more than enough to convince you that I am not questioning the use of Fabricate, but rather its use IN ADDITION. And since in your conversation to your friend you left a choice between the two, of course he's going to pick Fabricate. It's a better card. But once again, that doesn't mean they can't BOTH be in the deck. And as for whether one would play a station deck in a tournament, of course not. There are only about 4-5 decks you'd play in Mirrodin block or Type 2: Raffinity, T&N, KCI, Crystal Witness, or possibly Big Red. There's a slight chance I might have missed something, but that's the main archetypes, and the stuff that consistently wins or comes in Top 8.
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Post by DontCare on Oct 19, 2004 19:20:39 GMT -6
Hey Guess what Don't Care, it really doesn't matter what ur opinion says because u satins at magic anyways
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Post by DontCare on Oct 19, 2004 20:22:07 GMT -6
and by the Way KCI-Piece of crap now Crystal Witness-that deck was only popular for about 2 secounds and Big Red did come back so its stilla good deck
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 19, 2004 20:36:21 GMT -6
Crystal Witness-that deck was only popular for about 2 secounds Therein lies your problem. You judge a deck solely by its popularity. You're just saying that because you play big red. If I remember, you've lost more than once to a casual Equipment deck with it.
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Post by DontCare on Oct 20, 2004 16:38:23 GMT -6
Ok First of All i didn't lose to That Random Casual Equip deck, Chris didn't beat me at all. Besdies Big Red Mir. BLock was a thing of the past i stopped playin that deck more than 2 months ago, there are better things now then Bog Red.
And secound of all Chystal Shard was only used in like 4 tournys the most becoase there were many other decks better Than That.
And i don't jusde its deck by its popularity, i only play decks that are playable in tournments.......
Oce again i'm not some Ranodm person like u
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 20, 2004 17:31:39 GMT -6
Is your keyboard broken or are you just not familiar with the English language?
Do you only play in tournaments? In casual there's a hell of a lot more room for creativity and experimenting. And variety. Do you think the other 250 cards or so in each core set that don't get used in tournaments are just there to fill up the packs?
The thing about a lot of people that either play in tournaments or pay attention to him and fancy themselves tournament players is that they think they're it. They think they're the only ones in the magic community, that anybody who doesn't play one of the three or four decks that are the "in" thing in Standard (or the 7 or 8 that are popular in Vintage at the moment) is a bad player, or that they don't know what they're doing. This is simply not true.
In fact, I would venture a guess that the vast majority of people who play magic don't play in tournaments. It's rather hard to tell that, because I think serious players hang out at card stores like Astro City a lot more than other players (except for the wannabe tournament players, who hang out a lot more because they don't actually go play in events like the tournament players do).
In conclusion, just because you only care about the decks that are popular in Standard, and will only play those decks regardless of whether you are playing in a tournament or not, does not mean others share your preference. Therefore, restricting your argument to whether or not a card sees tournament play is totally irrelevant when arguing with such people.
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Post by DontCare on Oct 20, 2004 17:43:06 GMT -6
yes i do play in tourys, i dont play whats popular i only play what i think is good enough do to well in the tourny and i don't pay casual its a waste of time for a a bunch of losers that waste their money and shit cards that one one would ever use because those cards were just made to fill up the block.
So ur saying that people that play in tournys are not serious players. look around you if u didnt notice that when u go to Astro City u c Kids and Adults that polay in Tournys, its not our fault that we would rather put some use into the money we spend in cards to make something out of it. not just send a waste of money down the Drain might as well make something out of it
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Post by DontCare on Oct 20, 2004 17:48:23 GMT -6
plaease don't say that u guys that randomly come to the shop say that u r serious players cause ur not. u r casual players. it odens't even matter what u say
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 20, 2004 17:54:32 GMT -6
So ur saying that people that play in tournys are not serious players. As a matter of fact, that's exactly NOT what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that tournament players are not the only ones whose opinions matter, and they very often forget that. Show me where I said that I was. This sentence (and I use that term loosely since I've seen hamsters that can construct a better sentence than you) proves that 1) you either didn't read the rules of this forum or refused to obey them, and that 2) you are proving my point about so-called "serious" players thinking their opinions are the only ones that matter, and 3) you are a complete and total jackass.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 20, 2004 18:06:44 GMT -6
Oh, and DontCare: Welcome, and thank you for joining Volrath's Stronghold. Before you start posting we would like to lay down some ground rules, and they could be summed up in three words; Keep it Clean! To elaborate on this: NO FLAME WARS: (Fight on another board, it will not be tolerated here). No Swearing: (Keep the profanity elsewhere please). No insulting/making fun of other members: (If you do not agree with someones opinion, and wish to state your own that is one thing, but to nag and shout at another member about how their opinion is wrong is another thing). Keep All Posts in English: (All non-English posts will be deleted). Obey these few simple guidelines and we will get along great here. Those are the forum rules. Something tells me you didn't read them. I'd prefer to believe that rather than the alternative, that you are blatantly ignoring them. In the future, let's keep it civil. As for Reshape, we'll have to agree to disagree. For now, though, this thread has gone horribly off-topic. Any more discussion of Baron Sengir's station deck will have to take place in a new thread, I'm afraid, because this one is officially over.
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