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Post by Baron Sengir on Oct 3, 2011 12:52:52 GMT -6
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Post by Baron Sengir on Oct 3, 2011 13:37:58 GMT -6
If you check this guy's videos on his channel you'll see him doing this same process on Revised starter decks to get the dual lands in the box and sell off the rest of the decks without having to open them or break the seal.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 5, 2011 3:15:24 GMT -6
I can't make up my mind whether this is awesome or outrageous. On the one hand, he's put the info out there for everyone to level the playing field. But on the other hand, this means that that same information can be (and no doubt has been) used to take all the good or valuable rares from a box, and leave the less valuable ones to sell to everyone else.
I'd say Wizards of the Coast should do something to combat this, by adding some sort of randomizing to their process before the packs get sealed into boxes.
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Post by Baron Sengir on Oct 5, 2011 7:05:03 GMT -6
Well retailers have been doing this for a long time and this guy actually was one of them. He even said that in a video he is doing the book and videos as sort of penance for all the people he has ripped off in the past. on another note I actually discovered that you generally don't want to buy loose boosters of the first several sets because the packs weren't foiled inside so if you held them up to a bright light you could see what cards were in it. I guess it's good that I rarely by loose boosters; generally I just by individual cards or a sealed booster box.
Alternatively I think the new layout of cards in Innistrad is going to make it harder to do this seeing as how there are the two floating cards at the back of the pack that could be anything. I guess it just depends on how Wizards set up their programming; but I would assume they would take the floating cards into it just to make the possibilities that much more complicated to figure out.
But ultimately I can understand why you might be upset at this. Sadly as long as the cards are packed by a machine there has to be some sort of pattern to it, but what Wizards can do is make the pattern very difficult to figure out.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Oct 5, 2011 11:49:01 GMT -6
In my case it's more of a generalized moral outrage that the possibility to do this exists. I haven't bought cards (other than singles) since 9th edition, and other than a booster box here and there it was mostly drafting back when Jake was running Astro.
Way back in the day, I used to buy my booster packs from Osco, and I doubt there was anyone working there who would have had the know-how to do any of this stuff. To them I doubt it was any different than selling baseball cards.
I had heard of rumors before that you could see what cards were in some of the really old boosters before they were opened. However, I had never heard that anyone had figured out a mathematical formula which would allow them to predict the rares in a booster box based on the packs' relative positions. That's very clever on someone's part, but also rather dishonest.
Now that the secret is out, I think Wizards should try and find a way to change it. Maybe they need to add a step in the process where someone randomizes the packs by hand after they've been sealed in the packs, but before they've been sealed in the boxes. I'm sure that would be a tedious job, but it might well be worth the trouble. If this thing becomes widely known, it could hurt their sales of booster packs if people realize they're not likely to find a good rare because the shop dealers have already taken the good packs.
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