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Post by Baron Sengir on Nov 29, 2011 22:16:58 GMT -6
I give you a disgusting combo for your reanimator deck John. Put Emrakul the Aeons Torn in your graveyard pretty much anyway you can like via Entomb and in response to Emrakul's last ability triggering, play Shallow Grave and promptly get jacked in the face lol. |
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Post by House Turtle on Nov 29, 2011 23:11:12 GMT -6
Sure beats me trying to do Triassic Egg to get it into play.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Nov 30, 2011 2:02:53 GMT -6
So if I understand, you play Shallow Grave in response to Emrakul's graveyard-state ability thing, which means Shallow Grave resolves first and you get Emrakul into play. Then you probably get to reshuffle your graveyard into your library anyway. That's the gist of it?
Sigh... one more reason why this card should never have been made.
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Post by House Turtle on Nov 30, 2011 7:40:33 GMT -6
That's exactly the kind of game mechanics that make my brain go numb. The combo in itself I am not complaining about its just an issue of trying to understand what effects resolve and when.
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Post by Baron Sengir on Nov 30, 2011 8:37:50 GMT -6
That's exactly the kind of game mechanics that make my brain go numb. The combo in itself I am not complaining about its just an issue of trying to understand what effects resolve and when. I agree that's the toughest part for me too. I do sort of enjoy figuring it out, but it can get complicated. To be honest John I'm not sure if you get to shuffle your graveyard into your library and I also don't think you get the extra turn since your not casting Emrakul right? |
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Post by Baron Sengir on Nov 30, 2011 8:41:58 GMT -6
Corpse Dance will also work proving further how great Tempest is. ;D
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Nov 30, 2011 17:45:57 GMT -6
You definitely wouldn't get the extra turn since you didn't cast Emrakul, but I'm less certain about the graveyard shuffle.
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Post by House Turtle on Nov 30, 2011 18:33:45 GMT -6
Well, gatherer has no rules on that matter but there are several other rules posted.
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Post by House Turtle on Dec 22, 2011 7:32:17 GMT -6
I did some looking since this thought has occured to me for my reanimator deck. Seems any instant reanimation spell will kick in before the reshuffling into the deck occures. The way I always understood stack manipulation is last effect played occured first. So it hits the graveyard and in response something like shallow grave is played. Shallow Grave being on top of the stack resolves first. I found this out given I was looking up rules discussions and apparently people have used Goryo's Vengeance to do it. |
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Post by Baron Sengir on Dec 22, 2011 9:04:04 GMT -6
Yeah that 's how I understand it to work also.
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