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Post by chainer on Sept 25, 2004 22:23:46 GMT -6
well, most if not all of us has said what we want but we still haven't come up with what we're going to use, so how are we going to decide?
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 26, 2004 14:10:58 GMT -6
well, most if not all of us has said what we want but we still haven't come up with what we're going to use, so how are we going to decide? Best thing I can think to do is take a few types at a time and vote yes or no on each.
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Post by chainer on Sept 27, 2004 7:18:05 GMT -6
sounds good, i'll throw up one, Wurms, yes or no for wurms.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 27, 2004 10:04:14 GMT -6
I vote yes, I think there should be at least a couple.
I'll add another one: Barbarians.
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Post by Volrath, the Fallen on Sept 27, 2004 15:20:42 GMT -6
yes, they represent less civilized/chaotic soldiers. I like them.
Elves?
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Post by chainer on Sept 28, 2004 15:41:54 GMT -6
wurms=yes duh barbarians=ok, it works elves= no more elves, they'er everywhere now a days.
ok, how about wizards
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 28, 2004 16:54:35 GMT -6
wurms=yes duh barbarians=ok, it works elves= no more elves, they'er everywhere now a days. ok, how about wizards There are no elves in Kamigawa (thankfully). If we go with this whole "order vs. chaos" thing, then we shouldn't use elves. Elves to me, although a very free people who wouldn't really be very regimented, nonetheless don't fit the "wild and chaotic" feel very well. Wizards, though, definitely should be included. But I don't think they should be in the role of the blue tribe. They should be spread out across all the "order" colors.
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Post by chainer on Sept 28, 2004 17:03:07 GMT -6
i really like maraxus idea for the wizards
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 28, 2004 20:42:44 GMT -6
To expand on that a bit... Wizards can be spread across the "order" colors, meaning that there will be white Wizards, blue Wizards (of course), and probably even black Wizards. As we said, black could go either way in the law vs. chaos spectrum, and in my opinion it should dabble in both sides. However, this means that there will be no wizards in green or red. What, then, goes in their place? In the "law vs. chaos" spectrum, you can easily draw comparisons between various creature types. For example, soldiers are quite obviously representative of law and order. Barbarians, on the other hand, are more chaotic. It's just like the distinction between barbarians and fighters in D&D.
I believe that Wizards as well should have a counterpart. The best thing I can think of is Druids. They already exist in green anyway, and I think the natural aspect of their magic makes them ideal candidates. The only other candidate I can think of is Shamans. If we go with Shamans, then maybe we could use Druids as the counterpart to Clerics or something.
In order to illustrate this and keep track of it, I drew up a little chart:
Law___________________Chaos Soldier..........................Barbarian Wizard..........................Druid/Shaman
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Post by CrimsonTears on Sept 28, 2004 22:14:54 GMT -6
Ok I am new here but let me put my 2 cents in. how about some form of just undead. Not a zombie or skeleton but a summon undead.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 28, 2004 22:59:58 GMT -6
Hey, welcome aboard!
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 28, 2004 23:27:36 GMT -6
Well then, welcome! And here's a dancing pink elephant to make you feel better!
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Post by Butcher Orgg(s) on Sept 29, 2004 20:04:54 GMT -6
*WierdeD OuT* Okay, for the Chaotic Counter-Wizards... Well, I got one for Black, anyhow: Necromancer. I mean, seriously, that would be sweet! Also, Barbarians... Kinda mundane. How about... Uhh... Dwarfs! Let's give 'em their day! Also: I think we should have a tribal sub-theme.
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Post by Maraxus of Keld on Sept 29, 2004 22:12:19 GMT -6
*WierdeD OuT* Okay, for the Chaotic Counter-Wizards... Well, I got one for Black, anyhow: Necromancer. I mean, seriously, that would be sweet! Also, Barbarians... Kinda mundane. How about... Uhh... Dwarfs! Let's give 'em their day! Also: I think we should have a tribal sub-theme. Well, dwarf is a race, not a profession. That's what barbarian has on it. I certainly support making some dwarves, though. I'm a bit hesitant to make a tribal theme, since we've had a whole block of that recently (Onslaught).
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Post by Butcher Orgg(s) on Sept 30, 2004 9:46:48 GMT -6
Oh, not a maxi-theme, a mini-theme, like it is in Champions.
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